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"Condemned prisoners must not be tortured to death"
Posted: 9:16 AM Feb 8, 2008
Last Updated: 12:47 AM Feb 9, 2008
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The Nebraska Supreme Court on Friday scrapped the state's electric chair, equating its use with torture in a landmark decision that electrocution is cruel and unusual punishment.

The high court's bluntly worded decision removes a distinction Nebraska has held for years: the only state in the country with electrocution as its sole means of execution.

Awaiting Justice
As accused killer Roy Ellis awaits his trial for the murder of 12-year-old Amber Harris, Amber's mother is watching developments following Friday's ruling by the Supreme Court.

Melissa Harris says the ruling forces her to think even more about her daughter.

She says, "Amber would not want to see anybody dead. I don't wish death on anybody on this earth, anybody. But as I've said the punishment doesn't have to be physical."

As for the fate of Roy Ellis, Melissa says, "My faith had lacked for a long time but now, God will fix that."

"Condemned prisoners must not be tortured to death, regardless of their crimes," Judge William Connolly wrote in the opinion for the high court. Chief Justice Mike Heavican, who filed a dissent, was the only one of the seven judges to disagree that electrocution is cruel and unusual.

The high court made the ruling in the case of Raymond Mata Jr., convicted for the 1999 kidnapping and killing of 3-year-old Adam Gomez of Scottsbluff. Parts of the boy's body were found in a freezer and dog bowl at Mata's home. Bone fragments also were recovered from the stomach of Mata's dog.

The court said in its opinion that evidence shows that electrocution inflicts "intense pain and agonizing suffering" and that it "has proven itself to be a dinosaur more befitting the laboratory of Baron Frankenstein than the death chamber" of state prisons.

"Contrary to the State's argument, there is abundant evidence that prisoners sometimes will retain enough brain functioning to consciously suffer the torture high voltage electric current inflicts on a human body," Judge William Connolly wrote in the opinion for the court. "The evidence supports the district court's statement that instantaneous and irreversible brain death is a myth."

Nebraska Solicitor General J. Kirk Brown had argued for the state that the legal standard a method of execution must meet is to minimize the risk of unnecessary pain, violence and mutilation, not eliminate it. He said electrocution meets that test.

There are conflicting views on whether the decision would be accepted by federal courts on appeal.

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning says he will ask the court to reconsider its ruling.

Bruning is quoted in a statement as saying, “I’m surprised and disappointed with the ruling and think the Supreme Court is mistaken. I think the decision is incorrect as a matter of law, and we intend to ask the court to reconsider it.”

Bruning added, “Nebraskans overwhelmingly support the death penalty and justice demands our state has a constitutional method of execution.”

A national expert on death penalty laws said the state high court appears to have shielded its decision from federal review.

"I think the Nebraska court purposely made this sort of immune from challenge by deciding it under their own constitution," said Richard Dieter, executive director of the Death Penalty Information Center.

"That should end it. Appeals can always be filed, but I think this will stand and will not be reviewed by the U.S. Supreme Court because they don't want to get into state courts interpreting their own constitution."

In its opinion Friday, the high court stressed repeatedly that its ruling did not strike the death penalty -- just electrocution as the method. In fact, Mata's death sentence was affirmed by the high court.

The court said the Legislature may vote to have a death penalty, just not one that offends constitutional rights.

That could leave lawmakers scrambling to approve another means of execution during the current legislative session.

But the speaker of the Legislature, Mike Flood, who supports the death penalty and helps set the legislative agenda, said it will be very difficult to approve a replacement for electrocution this late in the legislative session.

The governor could introduce a bill to change the method, Flood said. So could a legislative committee, but it would take a three-fifths vote of the Legislature to do so.

The latter seems unlikely given a close, first-round vote on repealing the death penalty last year.

Attempts to replace electrocution with lethal injection in Nebraska have failed in the past.

Jerry Soucie, Mata's attorney, said he was "really surprised the lengths they went to lay out in detail what's wrong with electrocution."

Friday's decision is another step in the decades-long erosion in support for electrocution. The use of the electric chair began to decline when Oklahoma adopted lethal injection in 1977, said Dieter, with the Death Penalty Information Center.

As more states adopted lethal injection, it became more difficult to justify the electric chair, he said.

"It's been a 30-year decline," Dieter said.

According to the Death Penalty Information Center, electrocution is an option or a backup method of execution in nine states: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Kentucky, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

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Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:28 PM
What a load of used oats!!!!!!!!! Horse crap!!! Who the hell came up with this? I for one am very tired of this type of nonsense, It is NOT state money keeping prisoners housed and fed, it is MY money YOUR money. And now it is cruel and unusual to fire up old sparky. The people on death row took someone eles life!! Took everthing they had, everthing they were, and could be !!!

Posted by: Chris Location: LV on Feb 11, 2008 at 07:43 PM
The GUILLOTINE is an outstanding alternative to the electric chair! It's quick, and all of the research has already been done to make sure there are no mistakes. Plus, it starts with the same letters as GUILTY!!

Posted by: John S Location: Bellevue, NE on Feb 11, 2008 at 04:33 PM
I grieve for the victims of Von Maur and their families. Their emotional pain is something that none of us can comprehend unless we have been through such circumstances ourselves. We cannot offer a means of dealing with their grief by vengance. We can only offer respect for them and for their grief. If the punishment fits the crime then who determines what is appropriate? Do we go for imediate vengance? Why do we have civil rights? Who is entitled to them? Are civil rights only for ourselves? I see some endorse techniques such as waterboarding. I hope that such individuals never have to face these techniques themselves. One may say - "Of course I won't! I obey the law!" How many who HAVE obeyed the law have been incarcerated? Further, I would not trust the information gained using such techniques. Many would say what is expected of them in order to have the method ended. It becomes a slippery slope when humanitarian rights are sacrificed in order to gain immediate relief.

Posted by: jon on Feb 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM
I wish we could think of more cruel and unusual ways to execute people instead of the opposite. I think the cheapest way is the best way. The criminals are wasting our money. Keep it simple.

Posted by: JayR Location: Omaha on Feb 11, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Anonymous, do you really think they would set there and think about what they did? No they are setting there thinking about what they can do to you!!!! You think about that!!!!. Tina, try hugging the scum of the earth that these people are. I am sure your loved ones will have a different view after this scum rapes and kills you when you do give them a hug. How naive you are.

Posted by: Joe Bob Location: Omaha on Feb 11, 2008 at 12:48 AM
Okay then bring back public executions. Hanging, firing squads, stonings, etc. Cruel and Unusual punishment, but it was okay for the criminal to do whatever they want to their victims. That's what's wrong with this country. I'm sorry but when you take someone's life, you have NO RIGHTS!! I saw do to them what they did to their victim. Or just take'em out back and shoot them.

Posted by: shanon Location: omaha on Feb 10, 2008 at 09:44 PM
Lets keep it real people! There are people who have been wrongfully convicted and end up on death row.Then there are people who are cold blooded killers who have no way to excape their sentence or appeal because they are sooo guilty there is never going to be a question of doubt.Mata is a abuser and murderer, there is no question or doubt about this. It is a fact!He cant do anything but say his eminent death sentence is cruel , well impliment one that is not and get him to hell where he belongs!

Posted by: Fitzy Location: Omaha on Feb 10, 2008 at 06:13 PM
I see no reason that the death penalty method needs to be comfortable and conveniant for the criminal. I say the more agonizing teh better. Maybe then it might make people think twice before they murder someone in cold blood. If the criminal has been found guilty without a reasonsable doubt or they have admitted the crime... I say get it over with ASAP. However it needs to be done. You murder someone, you should not get to live any longer yourself. Violent crime laws are too leniant and vague and are clearly not getting the intended point accross to the criminals.

Posted by: Scott Location: Omaha on Feb 10, 2008 at 01:23 PM
As of now we don't have a death penalty. We have a system that lines the pockets of attorneys. Being on death row for 20 plus years does not constitute having a death penalty. Starkweather was put to death within 2 yrs and so should the rest of them. Abolish the death penalty so our taxes don't support the attorneys in this irresponsible justice system that our state has as a "law". I am for the death penalty as long as we institute iti in a timely manner.

Posted by: Keith Location: Papillion on Feb 10, 2008 at 01:12 PM
Anonymous from council bluffs: the vast majority of donated organs are taken from people while their heart is still beating. We use the determination of "brain dead" to allow harvesting organs (while still fresh) before the donor is actually dead. All we need to do is create a determination like, say "criminally dead" (i.e. as good as dead), to harvest a death-row inmate's organs. You know, kinda like that movie COMA, where they had people "hanging around", waiting for the right match. It would be like a death-row lottery, as each inmate waits for his number to come up, so to speak.

Posted by: Dave Location: Omaha on Feb 10, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Brian..do you not think the next thing to ruled unconstitutional will be life sentences,do you not think we as tax payers are paying for ALL appeals,not just the death penalty ones? If the electric is unconstitutional,then so is requiring me to pay taxes to keep them alive in jail. I say we law abiding citizens file a lawsuit and sate it is unconstitutional to make us pay for them. If they or their family can't afford it,then they rot and die palin and simple. We don't seem as concerned about the starving famliles and homeless people in the state,but god forbid a murderer is put to deat,when they deserve it.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 9, 2008 at 11:58 PM
Laura its been proven in several cases that more money is spent in litigation in appeals for criminals on death row. id much rather have them live in a minimalist prison for life so they can just sit and think of what they did.

Posted by: Amanda Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:50 PM
This is dispicable, I find it appauling that the State of Nebraska is saying the electric chair is 'cruel and unusual' and 'agonizing for the death row inmates',umm...there obviously on death row for killing someone, so why is it fair for them not to suffer when their murder victims had to suffer and the families continue to suffer. My prime example are the Norfolk Bank killings, Jose Sandoval and the other one that's on death row deserve the electric chair,they probably had no intention of taking any money from that US Bank that day, they are cold blooded killers that deserve to be electrocuted and suffer in agony.

Posted by: Laura Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:06 PM
The chair must not be that bad if Texas can use it with no problems. Its unusual and cruel....so what, I would rather have them die in that manner than have my tax money feed them, give them medical care, etc.

Posted by: Jeff Location: Denver on Feb 9, 2008 at 07:19 PM
The latest news is stating that lethal injection is now cruel, proclaimed by certain groups. The guillotine was used for centuries. I would hardly think that death by the guillotine would be painful. The anticipation of the punishment would be the punishment itself. I say chop their heads off.

Posted by: Henry on Feb 9, 2008 at 05:56 PM
What is cruel and unusual is to have legislators that are afraid to use the tools given to them by the people; the judges that think "THIER" opinion is the only one and use their office we elected them to for a social crusade, and a system that actually believes that criminals deserve to have their "FEELINGS" considered after they have murdered, rapped, maimed their way to a death sentence. It's really a shame when they can outlive their instrument of execution; the death penalty is not a burden on us it is our responsibility to ensure it is carried out in a timely manner. These death row inmates do not deserve and more consideration of their feelings that they gave their victims, if Sparky can't be used for electrocutions he'd make a fine seat for the next inmate with a target pinned to his chest!

Posted by: Sue Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 03:16 PM
I know a lot of comments come from after reading other people's comments. I'm didn't read the other comments, this comment is from my heart. What is cruel and inhumane is how we, as a society, continue to protect the guilty. Those that are on death row did not give their victims a second, third, fourth or even a fifth chance. They gave their victims an immediate death sentence and unfortunately some of them were not immediate deaths. The victims suffered sometimes for hours, days or possibly weeks. I have no sympathy for someone who can take the life of an innocent person. Guilty is guilty and I should not have to pay for that guilt for the rest of my life. I am raising a family of my own and barely make ends meet. Why should I have to pay for a person living a life sentence? If there is reasonable doubt about the guilt or innocence of an individual, then give them a second chance. If there is no doubt, why should we; again, they didn't offer their victims a second chance.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I was reviewing some of the men on death row and they have been there quite sometime. Seems like it will make little diffrence as we are not excuting them very fast anyways

Posted by: r Location: omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 01:56 PM
let me clarify that i am not a family member of an executed person, i am however a family member of a victim who was brutally murdered in May of 2006. I'm just hoping that Nebraska didn't create a loophole for families to sue the state of Nebraska.

Posted by: r Location: omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 01:50 PM
I just have a ?, what about the surviving family members of the persons who were executed, can they go back and do a "civil" lawsuit because now their family was killed in a cruel and unusual punishment or does it matter since they were convicted of a crime? I really hope not but just curiousity?

Posted by: Scott Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Well, here ya all go folks, especially those of you tha went to see Barricade Obomniac when he was hear. our countries growing liberal views are destroying the nation, someone like roy ellis no longer has to worry about the chair after molesting, killing, and dumping a little girls body, they all have a stay until we come up with a better way, isnt that nice? Nebraska supreme court needs to be challenged, I say fry em, beat em with bats,come up with the most horrific way to put them to sleep! MAKE THE DEATH PENALTY A FRIGGIN DETERRENT TO CRIME LIKE IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! After this I have no use for any more liberal comments or views in my life, Just another thing that this whole state should be ashamed of!

Posted by: michele Location: omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:11 PM
EYE FOR AN EYE! I think that anyone that has been convicted of murdering a child should be turned over to the victoms family. Believe me, if someone hurt or raped and killed any of my children, me and my husband would love to spend a little time alone with them. That would take care of the electric chair!! And to anonymous from CB- Great idea with the organ donation as long as you can handle having a murderers heart

Posted by: Tina Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Wow! Some of you guys have some really barbaric comments. You need a hug.

Posted by: Dave Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 10:38 AM
I sday put the child killers in general population and let the other convicts take care of them

Posted by: A Location: O on Feb 9, 2008 at 10:17 AM
I think the punishment should fit the crime...if the victim was beheaded, then the killer is beheaded. If it was a child who was tortured, then torture the killer likewise. The problem is, there are no true consequences for actions and these killers will spend the rest of their lives watching cable tv and doing 'hard time' in kitchen or laundry duty while the family of the victim mourns the loss. Unfortunately, Dr Spock's (the child's psychologist, not the alien ;) ) philosophy won't work on a hardened criminal. And, I'm sick of my hard earned money going to house these losers because of wimps like the anti-death penalty people who want to be 'compassionate' and 'peaceful'. I have no compassion for a man who kills and dismembers a child. Give me the switch on some of these guys...I'll gladly zap them for killing a child.

Posted by: Joseph Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Ray Mata knows the definition of 'cruel and unusual' well. It also defines his act when he murdered, dismembered, and fed a child to a dog. If anyone deserves a cruel and unusual death he does. He can dish it out but not take it... There needs to be a accidental fire on death row where all inmates perish.... Save the taxpayers some money and ultimately have justice served.

Posted by: L Location: Metro on Feb 9, 2008 at 09:34 AM
We worry so about how we treat murderers, we say the chair-- old sparky is too cruel, and yes, it is. Maybe we should look at the Guilliotine, the national razor was fast and did not suffer. Guillion invented it as an answer to cruel death by hanging or the axeman. What happened to firing squads? Too often murderers feel no remorse, and their crimes are violent and cruel. Time to think about victims families for a change.

Posted by: Chad Location: West Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:50 AM
Is our court calling God uncivil? God never had a problem with stonings. How long do you think it took the guilty person to die from those? I can tell you more than a minute. And stonings were used on more than just murderers. I think its time to remove some judges from office! Where do we sign?

Posted by: Dale Location: Omaha on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Actually a Hollow point .38 slug to the brain pain seems a pretty inexpensive way to go.

Posted by: Gary Location: Florence on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:35 AM
Once again Nebraska has shown its fiscal ineptitude. How much money was spent fighting to keep the chair? They just should have went ahead and switched to lethal injection when the question of the chair came up.

Posted by: Louie Location: LaVista on Feb 9, 2008 at 08:09 AM
Execution by the "electric chair" is considered to be a "cruel and unusual" form of punishment to a lot of people. It is ordered by an appointed judge after the accused murderer is found guilty after having a trial and is sentenced to be executed. This accused person received what is considered to be a "fair trial" and was convicted after a lengthy and expensive trial process. The accused,whoever they may be, received more chances than their victim or victims ever had. I read where the opinion is the "electric chair" is painful. No one can say how much pain was felt by the victims. particularly the incindent in Scottsbluff when a 3 year old child was cut to pieces and then fed to a dog. Also,the courts have the crime scene photos which show graphic proof of cruel and unusual means of taking a life by the accused. Nothing is "kind and common" where murder and carrying out an execution are concerned. If it ordered by a court,then it must be done. It is only the right thing to do.

Posted by: kevin on Feb 9, 2008 at 05:32 AM
John S.. Maybe someone should kidnap, rape, and beat your daughters head in. Then perhaps you will change your myopic view of the death penalty. Yes, some, and very few of these people do not have the mental capacity to know what they did. But the rest, and most of them did. Like the Norfolk bank robbers, and Roy Ellis. Why do they all deserve to live when they took the lives of others to benefit themselves?

Posted by: Chris Location: Bellevue on Feb 9, 2008 at 12:35 AM
I don't think there can be any peace inside the head of someone like Mata. Give him 4 walls and nothing else to concentrate on for the rest of his life. It will be a good introduction to the eternity waiting for him. I used to be so much for the death penalty, but as I get on in years, I just worry more and more about trusting a government that can't figure out tax code or immigration to iron out whether someone lives or dies. With DNA there have been a shocking number of cases where the defendants did not do the crime. I guess it just seems to me that God knows more about justice than we do.

Posted by: Brian Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM
Consitution 101: It only regulates conduct between the government and citizens, not citizens versus citizens. Someone murders another criminal law takes over and that person is sentence. Life without parole does the same as the death penalty and is much cheaper in the long run then going through the process to execute. And we never have to worry about killing someone and then finding out they are innocent, it has happened across the country, including Nebraska.

Posted by: Stephanie Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Someone taking another persons life is creuel, and it is not unusual these days.. isn't that sad. Maybe the government shouldn't make it so easy for these people to feel like they can go and kill someone. If death row inmates knew that they would get they're punishment sooner then later, waiting twenty odd years for their punishments.. maybe they would think twice before killing. I personally would like to hear the reactions from other parents of murder victoms, other then Amber Harris' mother. I find it really odd that whenever something like this happends, she is all that you see!. Personally, that is strange in itself. I wish the family justice for Amber, but the constant media coverage on that family is getting old. What about all of the other families who lossed loved one too. Dont they matter?

Posted by: J Location: Bennington on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:00 PM
I have to agree that I really don't want people like Mata breathing the same air that I do. But what about those people who claim innocence of the entire crime? Once they are dead, you can't absolve them once proof of innocence is found, even if it is years later. That has happened - even in Texas, as fast as they execute people! Life in prison, no parole, no amenities such as tv, cable, weights, internet, etc. Cheaper than all the legal appeals, anyway. (Oh, except the polka music, as suggested by Mary from Gretna. Unless the Supreme Court finds THAT cruel and unusual.)

Posted by: lc Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 08:48 PM
Hey John, how about you paying 30-40,000.00 a year to house these sorry pigs.

Posted by: Linda Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 08:45 PM
Oh, & what happened at VonMaur wasn't cruel & unusual. And how about asking the parents of the little girl that just wanted to go get candy last summer. And now she is dead.

Posted by: Mary Location: Gretna on Feb 8, 2008 at 08:05 PM
I think the state should legalize waterboarding for a condemned prisoner, until he or she actually drowned. If that isn't punishment enough, a condemned prisoner should have polka music piped into his or her cell until the end came. That's right, polka music or one of the local radio talk shows.

Posted by: shanon Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 07:24 PM
It is against the law to kill someone and if given the right set of factors and you kill someone you deserve to die. The most sickening crimes of all the ones against the littel and Ray Mata is given a voice and way out.This is discusting! Get him off death row then and let a lifer do him in do something as he has got to go!

Posted by: Sheri Location: Omaha, Nebraska on Feb 8, 2008 at 07:08 PM
Have we forgotten those victims that were murder in the most inhuman way, I think that the appeals process should be done away with and the criminal should be executed in the same way in which they killed their victims. The victims didn't ask for what was done to them and we shouldn't therefore ask what should be done with the criminals if this is to be done it would not only solve our problem of prison over crowding but send a long awaited message to those who would thus think twice before committing a crime, and last stop babying the criminal with a lame excuse about a abusive childhood most of us were not brought up in the best of homes but doesn't give people an excuse to break societies rules.

Posted by: 21st century Location: nebraska on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:34 PM
This is the "wake up" call Nebraska needs to join the 21st century and the use of lethal injection

Posted by: John S, Location: Bellevue, NE on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:22 PM
Thank you for giving me this opportunity to speak out. Personally, I oppose the "Death Penalty" on both philosophical and realistic grounds. First, as a society we teach children that it is improper to kill another human being. However, this is negated when society gives a de facto endorsement to the idea of killing another human being by the use of the death penalty. Also, the idea that the potential penalty is a deterent to murder is null and void considering the unintentional nature of many murders. Also, do those who intentionally commit murder actually comprehend the nature of the crime and the nature of the consequences? On a more realistic level the cost to taxpayers for the endless appeals to which one is entitled to - considering that many who have been sentenced to death have actually been innocent - is extremely high. With these factors in mind, I am opposed to the "Death Penalty". Thank you for giving me this opportunity to share my view.

Posted by: I guess I'm a barbarian on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:20 PM
Dear Ernie, Have you ever had a loved one shot in the head? I have.... and it was a tragedy for our family... was years ago, still is. He was an innocent victim who received 'cruel and unusual punishment' for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. To all the victims families out there whose killers are on death row, I'm sorry our Holier than Thou State Senator and Supreme Court ruled against this 'cruel and unusual punishment'. We sure wouldn't want them to suffer like our loved ones did, do we? That would be so inhumane. Those poor killers. Let's continue to pay $40,000 per year, per inmate to keep them in prison. Our tax dollars at it's finest. Thank God Ernie is leaving. He's a disgrace.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: council bluffs on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:16 PM
How's this for an idea?? Since someone is being executed for the usual brutal death of another person, let's take the condemned person on their fateful day and let them chose to donate all their healthy organs such as heart, kidneys etc.. that would be donated to save someone else's life for a change. When you operate, then let them pass away peacefully on the operating room table. They won't feel a thing! Just find a doctor that won't mind disobeying their hypocratic oath once in a while.

Posted by: nebraska citizen on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:14 PM
It is okay for the Supreme Court to allow starvation of the innocent, in the shivo case, but it is inhumane to have the death penality for people who follow hitler and manson ideation. Justice? Other branches of government need to review them.

Posted by: matt Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 06:11 PM
consider the fact that some states use a firing squad, some states use hangings, what is considered cruel and unusual. I read recently that lethal injection can be C&U because it doesn't always work properly and the criminal suffers....whoop-dee-doo...their victims suffered too. our society has become soooo PC that even our criminals are getting treated better than victims.

Posted by: betty Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 05:37 PM
This is a comment to E from omaha. Isn't killing a sin in the bible? If so then that person is going to hell anyway. This is just speeding up the process and saving taxpayers money. Why should we feed,clothe,and provide shelter to someone who commit such agonizing crimes. let there be death on the savages.

Posted by: M Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 05:11 PM
Electrocution is not any more cruel than what these people did to their victims. The death penalty has been here since the beginning of time, even in the times of Jesus. There has to be consequences for peoples actions and the death penalty is supposed to be a deterrant. If we put everybody in jail for life, we are going to have to build more jails, pay more taxes just to support these criminals for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Half Fast Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 05:00 PM
Mae, if those are your true feelings, I have a lovely house in liberal socialist Minneapolis I'd love to sell you.

Posted by: Mike B Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 04:52 PM
The only thing cruel and unusual is to the victims who have to wait for all these low life scum of the earth to die with all their stupid appeals they get. The victims families should not have to wait YEARS for justice to be carried out. Maybe we should be like Utah and give them the option of the firing squad or like Washington and have them hang.

Posted by: erin Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 04:27 PM
They are not doing away with the death penalty...they are saying electric chair is cruel and unusual punishment, which it is. We are the only state that still utilizes it. The death penalty is not going away, it will just be a different means, so all you kill happy people rest easy we will have another method soon enough.

Posted by: DDB Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 04:20 PM
There are some individuals that just should not walk this earth with other humans. Anyone capable of beating a child to death deserves to die. I don't think having the death penalty makes the citizens of this State less civilized, I think it recognizes the fact that some people are so vile that their existence is a threat to everyone else. If you believe in Demons, these people would be considered so. So now we have decided to let the demons live, I wonder what deity is happiest about that? Interesting to say the least.

Posted by: kevin on Feb 8, 2008 at 04:09 PM
Cruel is how the murderers in jail killed their victims. A surge of electricity is a small price to pay for the way many victims have died. On a plus side, Ernie will finally shut his trap for a brief moment.

Posted by: Ryan Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Dear Dave - Nowhere in the Constitution does it say "you can kill someone by raping them and slashing their necks when the child is 11 years old." That's why the people are in prison...It's against the law. I'd like for you to show me where, in this ruling, the Nebraska Supreme Court said that killing, raping, and slashing the necks of children was allowed.

Posted by: Bill Location: Rural Nebraska on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Let us take time to think of the innocent person walking to his or her death. This has happened in our country. Our legal system is a mess.

Posted by: E Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:34 PM
I love how Nebraskans are so conservative and claim the religious high ground, but Jesus would not want revenge against all those who sin. That is missing the entire point of the Bible and everything it stands for. The electric chair is more about revenge than it is about punishment. So much for being a 'conservative' state. Sounds like we are nothing but hypocrites when it comes to religion.

Posted by: Pete Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:29 PM
Cruel and unusual punishment????? Let the scum bag fry..they murdered someone without remorse..Prisoners do not have rights!! That is what they are imprisioned for...they lose their rights..I'd say torture them all and then cook 'em.

Posted by: Mae Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:24 PM
About time. Honestly does our state have to continually be the last and most backward state in the union? It costs more to have someone on death row than life in prison. The death penalty should be banned, as I'm pretty sure we are the only "civilized" country that has it. We were the last state to have the safe haven law, now the last state with the electric chair, are we going to be the last state to ban smoking too? The trifecta of embarressment!

Posted by: jen Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:24 PM
i'm on the fence with the death penalty, but you all sound like barbarians! why is it okay to lower yourself to what these sickos have done?

Posted by: Half Fast Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 02:59 PM
Nebraska, consider the guillotine. It's quick with no cruelty and the condemned won't even know what hit 'em. If used as warranted, it may give potential criminals cause to pause.

Posted by: Mary Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 02:58 PM
I've never liked the death penalty because I could not pull that lever. What I would really like is PUNISHMENT. No weight rooms, no tv, no movies. Solitary the entire month of the death. No visiting with the other inmates. Ok,they can have a book a month and a bible. A picture of the person killed would be in that cell. I guess all of this would be cruel and unusual. Maybe what I want is a living death especially for one who has harmed a child or tortured an innocent.

Posted by: me Location: here on Feb 8, 2008 at 02:30 PM
Why should the killers have an easier way out than those killed?

Posted by: RM Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 01:41 PM
Maybe the form of execution should be in the same manner as the person was killed. that way the killer could not claim cruel or unusual because if they themselves did it they must not of thought it cruel or unusual or they wouldn't have done it.

Posted by: ciranese Location: newyork on Feb 8, 2008 at 01:08 PM
hello,im a 7th grader saying that thanks to your infomation i passed me socialstudies class i was reseaching death penalty

Posted by: Scott Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 01:08 PM
Yah what about the 3 year old boy that was killed?? I'm sure his death wasn't cruel and unusual!!! This just makes me sick!!!

Posted by: Pat Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:46 PM
We'll just have to start injecting them. We must retain the death penalty for scum like Mata. Most of those on death row make Frankenstein look like a teddy bear.

Posted by: HMG on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:45 PM
I would like to know how CRUEL & UNUSUAL the Supreme Court thought little Adam Gomez's death was?? They must not think being cut into pieces & fed to a dog was too cruel and Unusal. What do they think is Cruel and Unusal then?

Posted by: clem Location: fremont on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:37 PM
Why would the courts rule that cruel and unusual punishment. What do they call what the victims went through when they were induring much more cruelity. I would and they should make that person go through what they put their victim through. I am sure it wouldn't hurt the same. Make them as scared if not scarier then the victims feel before their life is ended.

Posted by: jen Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:29 PM
I've seen other posts of people freaking out that NE got rid of the death penalty....they didn't, just are telling to get other means. Its about time NE got out of the dark ages, the court said "it is the hallmark of a civilized society that we punish cruelty without practicing it" I couldn't agree more.

Posted by: Jeremy Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:25 PM
What about the constitutional rights of the 3 year old that Raymond Mata Jr. Killed!!! Seems to me that if you are convicted and sentenced by a court of your peers that you are no longer guaranteed constitutional rights!!! After all a convicted felon cannot vote, that is a constitutional right! If you do the crime and are convicted you need to face up to the consequences even if they are not necessarily comfortable. I agree that he still needs to be treated in a fair and humaine manner, but if he didn't want to be electrocuted then he shouldn't have killed someone!!! This ruling is just another sad example of politics interfering in the legal system. Sad, Sad, Sad, day!

Posted by: DAC Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:07 PM
They need to keep the death penalty.

Posted by: ErinLindsey Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 12:00 PM
The death penalty is a punishment. It's not supposed to feel good. We're not giving them a puppy, we're punishing them. People like John Joubert committed heinous acts. Joubert killed children, after molesting or raping them and torturing them. I'm sure that when he killed those children, he didnt care if he was causing pain or not. Those kids deaths were cruel and unusual, and I think Joubert's execution was just. I think Raymond Mata's killing of Adam Gomez might have been even more horrible. The quote that he showed "exceptional depravity" in killing Adam...dismembering him. I dont think electrocuting Mata would be cruel and unusual. It would be justice. What he did to Adam was cruel and unusual. Remember that execution is supposed to be a punishment. If it felt good, it wouldnt be a punishment.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Think about the victims of the people that are to be executed. Do you think they died a humane death? Why should their killer get any special consideration?

Posted by: mom of 4 Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:55 AM
What about the victims? Was it not "cruel and unusual punishment" the way they were killed. You can't tell me that little boy could stand up to an adult and defend himself. What happened to the Golden Rule? Seems the courts keep forgetting that, also. These criminals need to be accountable for the deeds they have done.

Posted by: someone Location: nebraska on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:47 AM
ARE THEY REALLY SERIOUS!?!?! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT IF A PERSON IS SENTENCED TO DEATH BY 'OL SPARKY, THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY COMMITTED A RATHER HEINOUS CRIME THEMSELF. THEY PROBABLY MURDERED SOMEONE. WOULDN'T YOU THINK THE VICTIM SUFFERED "INTENSE PAIN AND AGONIZING SUFFERING" WHEN THEY WERE BEING STABBED, SHOT, BEAT, RAPED OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. WHY SHOULD THE CRIMINAL'S LIFE BE SPARED WHEN THEY TOOK THE LIFE OF AN INNOCENT PERSON. ESPECIALLY A CHILD OR INFANT WHO WOULD BE COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS WAY. SO WHAT, THEY STAY IN PRISON FOR AWILE OR MAYBE EVEN YEARS AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ARE "REBORN" AND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSON? GIMME A BREAK. ALL PEDOPHILES SHOULD FACE THE SAME FATE, HOW IN THE WORLD CAN SOMEONE EVEN THINK TO HURT A CHILD IN THAT WAY. IT RUINS LIVES. IF YOU TAKE A LIFE, YOURS SHOULD BE TAKEN AS WELL. THE VICTIM DOESN'T GET A SECOND CHANCE AT LIFE, WHY SHOULD A MURDERER?

Posted by: Gary Location: Bellevue on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:45 AM
"The court added that the Legislature may vote to have a death penalty, just not one that offends constitutional rights." You've got to be kidding me. When did convicted felons deserve constitutional rights? Isn't that why they are headed to the chair in the first place? Because they so heinously denied some victims rights when they committed their crime. Let's just do away with prisons too. I know they must just be violating someone's rights.

Posted by: Melodie Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:38 AM
If I were a family member of a loved one who was murdered, I would hope and pray that the murderer would feel intense pain and agonizing suffering when they were being electrocuted. I would love to hear the Nebraska Supreme Court members explain to the parents of little Adam Gomez why the the death penalty wouldn't be fair to use on the convicted person who killed their child. The moment a person is found guilty of murder, we shouldn't have to worry about infringing on their constitutional rights.

Posted by: E on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM
Lethal injection is the way to go.

Posted by: Anonymous on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM
so what? these piecesof trash need to suffer for what they did. there victims im sure suffered and pleaded with them not to kill them, and these little babies get to sit there and say "this sint nice, dont hurt me..."and the state agrees, now we have to find a humane way? we need to torture them for what they did

Posted by: Paul on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM
But it is OK for these criminals to inflict cruel punishments on their victims. Just another example of the criminals having all the rights and the dead and murdered victims having none.

Posted by: Lawyer Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:25 AM
I am sick and tired of our judiciary taking on the role of legislators - we need to get the nominating process revised (the nominating committees currently have to have equal numbers of Dems and Repubs) and stop nominating all trial lawyers (many who did criminal defense work) to the court.

Posted by: SpaGuru Location: Louisville NE on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:20 AM
It's a sad day here in Nebraska when we eliminate the trusty electric chair from our arsenal. It is my personal opinion that anyone convicted of the death penalty suffer a horribly painful and long, slow death with as many witnesses that want to attend, in a quick time frame from conviction, say, not more than 6 months. By doing this, it will send the message to society that you dont kill others and get away with it and dont do the crime if you cant do the time. It is the reason criminals go into prison or detention , then come back to society, only to comit another crime shortly back out. There is no sense of punishment. No fear of the consequences. Do the crime, go to jail, eat and watch TV... But dont feel remorse or fear from doing another crime, because you know it will only be a slap on the wrist. Even if you kill mame and rape. Our justice system is about as effective as our health care system. The whole problem with the entire US is that there are too many lawyers.

Posted by: Gary Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:04 AM
I agree. execution should be replaced with firing squad or letal injection. Beheading or hanging would work too. Never mind the intense pain and the agonizing suffering of the victims of these animals. It's all about the criminals.

Posted by: Jim Location: Papillion on Feb 8, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Electrocution is cruel and unusual punishment? Remember that next time some scumbag goes on a rampage in the mall. Or the next time a baby dies at the hands of a parent or babysitter who's having a bad day. Or someone's daughter is raped and murdered! Instead of the electric chair or lethal injection, how about serving justice by killing the SOB the way his/her victim died!!!!!

Posted by: Patrick Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:44 AM
When did we decided that "cruel and unusual" means "any amount of pain or humiliation"? It's not like electrocution is similar to crucifixion, where where the pain and suffering is excruciatingly strung out for days until the criminal dies. So what's next? Will we be required to make executions enjoyable and entertaining for criminals?

Posted by: cms Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Cruel compared to what? cruel compared to killing and shooting and what other insane acts they commit? Bring on the needle if it is less cruel. An eye for an eye - my vote - they should die by the same pain that was inflicted on their victims - Amen

Posted by: Jeff Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:16 AM
For the love of all that is Holy - cruel and unusual means of execution?!!?? It's not like we are trying to save the person's life and they're being tortured for fun. They are being PUNISHED for do evil, nasty and usually horrible things to someone. Our society has become so concerned about the feelings of the guilty and their rights. What about the victims? What about what was done to them?? The death penalty IS a punishment. It IS meant to be a deterrant. If used properly and justly maybe a person would think twice before going out and killing someone. With the new clause put in about needing the crime to be henous(sp)before they could get the death penalty shows that the crime must be REALLY bad - ie torture, mutilation, etc. Not just a "simple" killing. Let's continue to worry about the feelings of the poor killers. Let's make sure they don't have to really pay for their evil acts. Just like in sports, school and home - you do something wrong you (should) get penalized/punished.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Intense pain and agonizing suffering that is what 3-year old Adam Gomez suffered it is only right that Raymond Mata Jr suffer the same. As should all murderers.

Posted by: Mark Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 10:00 AM
ARE YOU SERIOUS? In my humble opinion, I believe that once someone takes another's life, all rights are thrown out the window. The families of the victims have to suffer "cruel and unusual punishment" for the rest of their lives trying to deal with the pain of losing a loved one. Why should the killer be spared pain. I think they should bring back hanging! (j/k) I think lethal injection, the gas chamber and electrocution are all just fine!

Posted by: Dean Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:58 AM
No problem, lethal injection is calm and soothing. Just get something going and get rid of the trash on death row. Put Ol Smokey up on Ebay or donate to some museum and get rid of it.

Posted by: anonymous Location: omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:54 AM
Wow...i wonder if Mata Jr. even cared about the pain he inflicted on his three year old victim and his family. He should meet his death in the chair, why give him a peaceful death?!

Posted by: jp Location: bellevue on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:43 AM
For once, I would declare that the feelings of the victim were thought off instead of the convicted. Does it really matter how one is executed? They are put to death for a reason, cuz they inflicted pain and suffering to someone else. Either way, might as well put the death row inmates in a luxury suite until they die of old age. That;s how long it takes the system to finalize things. I guess we'll just have to build a lethal injection chamber, hopefully that's okay with the killers of this state. Hope it isn't toooo harsh for you.

Posted by: T Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:40 AM
What about the victims they murdered? Did they die a nice peaceful death...No! What about the victims that were tortured, stabbed or beat to death. I'm sorry if the murderer has to suffer some pain when they die, I call that karma and justice served.

Posted by: J Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Alrighty then... since the powers that be decided to make this ruling before we had a contingency plan to fall back on, let's just farm out our death row to a state that's not scared to execute someone... like maybe Texas. We can just pay them a fee to take care of it. It just might end up saving us taxpayers money while this whole thing gets sorted out.

Posted by: Mike on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:32 AM
Electrocution is CRUEL and UNUSUAL????? What about stabbing? Shooting? Murdering?

Posted by: Mark Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:30 AM
This is so wrong in so many ways, I'm sure 3 year old Adam Gomez or any of the other victims were very aware of their "intense pain and agonizing suffering'

Posted by: Kyle Location: Bellevue on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:27 AM
If someone has done something cruel and vile enough to even be sentanced to the death penalty, I don't really care about their "constitutional rights". Some people are so evil and such a disgrace to humanity that they, plain and simple, deserve to die. Putting them in prison just eats up our state's money. So, in my personal opinion, I say fry them.

Posted by: Dave Location: Omaha on Feb 8, 2008 at 09:27 AM
Would love to see where in the Constitution it says you can kill someone by raping them and slashing their necks when the child is 11 years old,and that is within the perps constitutional rights. Just shows you how far down the court systems have went. I say go to public hangings and show it on TV,them drop them in a lime pit to rot! Oh wait I may have just violated a persons constitutional rights.